HITC Sport's run-down of Sheffield Wednesday's greatest ever players continues with Carlton Palmer
From an England perspective, Carlton Palmer wasn't everyone's cup of tea - often featuring in those pre-tournament run-downs of our worst ever players you get on BBC Three.
But the fact he is there at all is testament to his impact on Sheffield Wednesday Football Club.
Palmer arrived at Hillsborough in February 1989 from West Bromwich Albion, the same month another former Baggie Ron Atkinson was appointed Owls manager.
Things weren't entirely straightforward at first, Wednesday finished 15th that year and went down the next, but Palmer was key to the club's resurgence in the second tier.
The Owls' legs in midfield, Palmer helped Atkinson's men back to the top flight at the very first attempt, although he missed their 1991 League Cup final success against Manchester United.
In Palmer and John Sheridan, not to mention the addition of Chris Waddle from Marseille, Wednesday had a midfield to rival the best of them back in the First Division and, now under Trevor Francis, finished third in 1991-92.
The following year they were cup finalists again, twice, and Palmer appeared in all four of the Owls' fixtures at Wembley (the FA Cup semi-final with Sheffield United, the League and FA Cup finals and a replay of the latter - all three against Arsenal), even captaining the side that lost 2-1 to the Gunners for a second time.
With Wednesday falling to seventh the following campaign, Palmer was sold to Yorkshire rivals Leeds United, for a reported £2.6million, following an alleged fall-out with Francis.
He returned to Sheffield for separate loan spells in 2001 and still has a house in the city. Contrary to popular belief, he is not the father of current Wednesday defender Liam.
Sheffield Wednesday career: 1989-1994, 2001, 2001.
Appearances: 264 + 12 + 10
International career: 1992-93