Brian McDermott once joked he was 'fired twice' by Massimo Cellino, but bears no grudges.
When the Leeds owner took over early this year, manager McDermott was relieved of his duties and later re-instated. It lasted just until the summer when he was sacked.
Leeds are onto their third permanent boss since then, and while they seem to have settled on the pitch, off it it remains a soap opera, with Cellino under fire from the Football League for a previous conviction for a tax irregularity.
McDermott appeared on SkySports Fantasy Football Club on Friday, and resisted any temptation to twist the knife, commenting that he feels a great affinity for the club and gets on well with the Italian.
He said: "It was an interesting one with Massimo. I don't know him, he didn;t know me. It was a struggle to start with.
"Its quite interesting now, I get on well with Massimo. You look at Leeds now what's hapening, and all the trauma that club's been through you have got to feel for the fans and they've suffered.
"But he (Cellino) was the one who put his hand in his pocket, I've got no axe to grind with Massimo whatsoever. Those fans, they deserve so much success, they really do."
Asked to elaborate on where it went wrong, McDermott said it was the structure Cellino brought in, with a director of football, which he found difficult to work with. He added: "It was alien to me to just coach them."
McDermott was previously a scout, and is currently with Arsenal until May, and so is used to as a manager, overseeing the purchases of players themselves, and it just seems their philosophies were incompatible to work together, even if they got on personally.