The feel good factor at Nottingham Forest has well and truly evaporated, with their strong start to the season a distant memory.
The word 'crisis' is not quite ready to come into play yet, but the team do look shot of confidence.
Manager Stuart Pearce looked to mix up his team selection against Brentford, sticking with Jamaal Lascelles for the second game in a row, but partnering him this time with Kelvin Wilson.
It's unfair to pin the blame on the Newcastle bound youngster, but Forest have conceded six goals in two games with him in the side.
Pearce looked to accommodate Wilson and Lascelles by playing Michael Mancienne in central midfield, but this was to no avail. It was not the first time he has done so, with negative results.
This dates back to the 2011 European under-21 Championships, when Stuart Pearce, then England under-21 boss, decided to play Mancienne in central midfield against Spain.
He had picked Chris Smalling and Phil Jones in central defence, but selected Mancienne as his captain in midfield.
While a Danny Welbeck goal ensured England escaped the opening group game with a draw, but Mancienne looked like a fish out of water against a talented Spain team including the likes of Juan Mata, Thiago Alcantara, and Ander Herrera.
As a result, Pearce dropped Mancienne from the team entirely, realising he was a poor fit for the team in midfield.
His second attempt at doing so, for Nottingham Forest in the Championship three years later was of little positive effect to his team, or his performance.
A player Pearce had described earlier this season as the best defender in the Championship, if this is a fact the manager truly believes, then he has to play him in his best position.
It is always worth experimenting as a manager, so long as, like previously, Pearce is prepared to put his hands up and say it didn't work out.