Many reasons have been discussed for Manchester United's slow start to the Premier League season, with much of the focus on David Moyes.
A poor summer transfer market didn't help, but the real reason for the stutter could actually have laid at the departure of the man Robin van Persie described as 'exceptional'.
First team coach Rene Meulensteen left the Red Devils after Moyes' appointment, he said he was offered a chance to stay, but chose to move on and let Moyes bring in his own men.
He took a job as boss at Russian side Anzhi Makhakhala, which went sour amid finacial difficulties, and he has now taken a job as head coach, supporting Martin Jol at Fulham.
If Fulham fans wanted evidence of their new man's influence, these quotes from United striker Robin van Persie from back in February tell a strong story:
"The way he (Meulensteen) trains is an exceptional, he is truly one of the best coaches in the world. I have had a lot of good trainers, but it’s the way he prepares our team for games. Every match is different, so every training session in the build-up to games is unique.
“We know exactly what to expect and he wins points for us through his training. We’ve won a lot of games by the odd goal and they are point winners, which we train for."
If Meulensteen really is as good as Van Persie claims, it's little wonder Manchester United have lost a bit of their early zip, as he would have been just the man to help guide them through the early tricky period in their season and adjustment to their new boss.
If Fulham do find themselves dragged into a relegation scrap, Meulensteen might just be the perfect man to help coach them through tricky situations and get the best out the players who are so far inconsistently performing.