Arsenal have suffered their worst start in the Premier League under Arsene Wenger, but are still in a good position to win a trophy.
Arsenal supporters are pretty split as to the future of Arsene Wenger. There is the Wenger out brigade, those who say Wenger out 'only if we can get Guardiola', and a large number who still believe the manager has what it takes, and the Gunners' problems lie higher up.
With Arsenal suffering their worst start in the Premier League under the Frenchman, it is only natural that there are currently misgivings, especially when players like Szczesny and Vermaelen were talking up a title challenge back in the summer.
They currently sit in 10th, a position they will surely rise from, it would still take a brave man to bet against them finishing fourth - Last season it seemed all was lost but they still battled back and watched Spurs inevitably crumble.
The area of criticism Wenger and Arsenal have most commonly faced over recent years is the fact they have failed to win a trophy. It is seven seasons and counting, but the Gunners are in a good position to rectify that.
Next week they travel to Bradford, a loss would surely be unthinkable for Wenger, but realistically Arsenal will win, they have a fine cup record against lower league opposition.
It is the Capital One Cup quarter-final, and a look across the draw may get fans just wondering if they can go on and win it.
A suddenly frail Chelsea face a tricky away trip to a refreshed Leeds, boosted by their recent takeover, a match which is much trickier than Arsenal's and has upset written all over it.
The remaining two matches pit Norwich against Aston Villa (Two sides who Arsenal have taken just one point from in the league this season in two matches) - and Swansea against Middlesbrough.
Having just lost to the Swans again and being drawn against them in the FA Cup, we are pretty sure Arsenal will not fancy a two-legged semi-final against them, but the draw is favourable in that Premier League big guns Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton, and rivals Tottenham have all been eliminated.
Now as Arsenal found out two seasons ago, this isn't a cup which is won on paper, as Birmingham City fatefully showed them in 2010, but the Gunners are second favourites to win the competition behind Chelsea, even if supporters reluctantly figure 'something will go wrong.'
We are asking, if Arsenal do win the competition, ending their trophy drought - Will it make up for a disastrous league table finish?
Finishing anywhere from 10th to fifth will be pretty unacceptable, as they will need to rely on winning the Champions League to qualify for it again. The draw for the knockout phases will be revealed in the coming days.
A trophy could just lift the gloom at Arsenal, or it could just be that it isn't the be all and end all, as Kenny Dalglish found out last season with Liverpool. The league is the bread and butter, fail there, and the knives will be out.
How would you feel if Arsenal won a trophy but lost out on a top four spot?
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